Forum : Messages to the team
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csr20t 7 months ago |
After ANOTHER weekend of race related issues including PM, It might be time for you to take a leaf out of Brad Jones book and GIVE THE DRIVING AWAY !!! Every round you seem to be included in the tail end dramas and it always seems to be someone elses fault. What's the common demoninator ?? PAUL MORRIS. I also noticed you were listed in the ROOKIE list for Friday practice, It might be best if you don't run here either, as we don't want all the new drivers being bad mouthed by your lack of driving skills AGAIN. ALSO, crapping on about how many cars etc you have to build, at least SBR have results to back them up, When has your team EVER posted a result ?? Nothing I can or is worth remembering. If you need Russell to get results, that just proves which direction your going and it isn't up (just like your popularity with all your comments and blaming last weekend and most others) Might be time to sit in the garage and let the real drivers race hey......... |
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michaelvt 7 months ago |
Look, if Paul has the money (which he obviously does) than let him keep racing, he has built up his own team and if he wants to race, so be it. SBR aren't as good as they make out to be. There cars are unreliable and they always favour one driver (in the team) over the other. Anyway it probably is time for Paul to consider letting someone else take his seat but he should take as much time as he wants. |
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Twodogs 7 months ago |
Hey what about this michaelvt , another supporter with the same views as myself . If the Webmaster had left my comments on here long enough , you would have read that I wrote exactly what csr20T has so accurately said . I just added that I thought he was at best a level 2 driver , and that he`s big enough in stature and financial backng to behave as he pleases . I think his comments yesterday back this up . Once again michaelvt , you`ve allowed your tunnel vision to control your typing fingers , I believe even most staunch of Holden supporters would agree that Stone Brothers can put together a very fast and reliable race car ,all they have to do now is " crash proof " it so Courtney can finish some races . |
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michaelvt 7 months ago | Twodogs what you don't realise that for the last 5 years i was a Ford supporter, in particular SBR and for the last 2 of those years Ingall was always 2nd priority after dancing superstar Courtney. So i am not a big Ford or Holden supporter, just a huge Ingall fan, so don't assume those sort of things. I do not have tunnel vision, especially when it comes to Morris of all people, i just think that people don't have the right to tell him to stop racing especially when he ownes the team. |
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Enforcer97 7 months ago | I agree with michaelvt's last sentance, no-one here has the right to tell Paul what to do and when to leave V8 Supercars. |
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csr20t 7 months ago |
Enforcer97, Is that you Russell ??? It certainly sounds like it ? I may not have the right to tell him to leave, BUT he needs to swallow his pride (or ignorance & arrogance) and realise he is ALWAYS part of the problem and not quite up there like he thinks he is. Actions speak louder than words and his actions both on & off the track is nothing to brag about, especially on the track......... I will say it again, might be time to get someone else (like Courtney) to take his drive and see exactly what results they can really achieve, rather than an old rookie never was, who thinks he deserves to be there because his (or his old mans) wallet is big !!!!! |
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stevo 7 months ago | Hey fellas, Paul is an aussie racing legend leave him alone, and russell is one too let em race |
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mattforcer39 7 months ago | oi csr20t you better keep your mouth closed i reckon if you junmped into a Supercar u would loop it as u turn the pit lane speed limiter off russell is one of the best drivers out there, if you aregunna perform you have to have the car underneath you and the setup, i believe russell did a fantastic job on the weekend considering it is only the second time the cars have been on track it is gunna take a while to get the cars were they want them to be, so why dont you shut ur mouth and let the enforcer race, |
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Enforcer97 7 months ago |
Do you seriously think i am Russell? I'll take that as a compliment, thanks! No unfortunately i'm not Ingall, just a huge fan! Anyway can we please stop the abuse and get on to some real discussions? |
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csr20t 7 months ago |
Mattforcer39, I agree, the first time I jumped into a V8 supercar, I bet I would loop it a few times, but its not my driving (or lack off) that we are talking about. Are you blaming the car & setup for Pauls lack of performance ? If he is such a legend and a good driver, why is he always at the back of the pack and listed in the ROOKIES ?? At least the enforcer is getting results, I agree, let Russell race, its the team boss that needs to look at what he's doing. Actions speak louder than words, and there aint much action from his car that's any good !! If he has built SO MANY cars as he wasnt afraid to tell everyone, Surely they can't keep blaming set up STILL. Maybe if they built GOOD cars, that might make a difference, I doubt it though, I still stick to my original argument, stay in the garage Paul and give a real decent rookie a drive, it becomes obvious when its time to give the big game away, and I think its time. i think the HQ's still run a few times a year, ring Garry Rogers, he will tell you the dates. AND, No Enforcer 97, I don't hink you are Russell, Sarcasm isn't hard to spot. YOU WISH and I think this is a real discussion, All the drivers keep blaming the rookies for causing or having accidents, what about the OLD NEVER WAS's ?? When they are CONTINUALLY involved in dramas every round, they need to be lokked at and critcised too. Only someone who's to blame, blames everything around them !!!!!!!! |
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Twodogs 7 months ago | Come on fellas , work it out , on Sunday , after qualifying very badly , Paul manaqged to finish 10th in race 2 , then in race 3 , before he completes a lap , he gets involved in some biffo ( maybe not all his own fault ) toward the back of the field , how does this effort compare with Russell , in an identical car , in the same team ,same track , same competitors. Anyone can see their is no comparison . Now Mattforcer39 , if you read again , very carefully , csr20t directed his comments at Paul , and his lack of what it takes to compete at this level . The man just isn`t competitive at this level , clearly shown last weekend when comprehensively beaten again by his team mate . I also agree that the only reason he has a drive in V8`s is because he lucky enough to have a lot of money to spend , as he told everyone on Sunday . Please tell everyone in the Forum Mattforcer 39, which team manager would employ a driver with Pauls driving record , and his wonderful public relations skills when interviewed ? |
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Stido 7 months ago |
Hey twodogs, I know it might'nt mean much, but remember, Ingall has alot more years behind him, alot more racing, and its all experience. Ingall has also been with 2 big v8 teams, Perkins/SBR. He would have learnt great amounts from those teams. Where has paul been? hes been in a team he built, no experience from the great teams in which Ingall has been involved. So in no offence to Paul, Its bound Ingall will be faster, he has been a brilliant racer for years now. Just goes to show, Ingall isnt an old bastard, he can still mix it up and rub panel to panel with the top guys!! |
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mattforcer39 7 months ago | you do have a point 2 dogs i have to agree with you there not to many teams would employ him |
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michaelvt 7 months ago | "shutdown mattforcer39". How does it feel? |
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mattforcer39 7 months ago | pretty good actually |
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Lauren 7 months ago |
Look, i'm not exactly a fan of Morris but this is his team and if you all dislike him so much and just want to praise Russell then wouldn't the decent thing to do be leave PM alone and just keep supporting Russell. I'm sure PM knows what is happening around him but to come on his team web-site and dis him is pretty sad and rude. IT is his choise if he keeps on driving and it was Russells choice to join this team so where's the respect??? |
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mattforcer39 7 months ago | lets put it this way lauren alot of us boys dont think before we talk that includes morris i would like to take my post off but i cant but thats just the way us boys are. |
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Lauren 7 months ago |
I know.. well maybe there needs to be more females in this place to pull you boys in line  |
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mattforcer39 7 months ago | just wondering what v8 rounds do you go to |
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Lauren 7 months ago |
I'm originally from sydney so i use to go to.. Amaroo (old school) don't even know if i spelt that right Oran Park, Eastern Creek and Bathurst. Spent last yr in Melbourne and went to all of there rounds but sadly i'm now living in Karratha W.A and i'll only be able to go to Perth this yr or fingers crossed be able to head home for the last Oran park...sob sob |
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Twodogs 7 months ago | Hey Stido , yes , Ingall has got more miles under his belt ,yes he has done more winning , no arguement there , I didn`t set out to debate who was the better driver of the two ,blind freddy ( sorry freddy ) can see that Russell ,and proabaly 95% of the field are better drivers than Paul Morris , IN THIS CATEGORY !!! . And 100% of the drivers are better sportsmen ,with regard to their attitude and response after an incident , their faults or not . And , again , no other team owner that I can recall ,has gloated that they have plenty of money ,and can build as many cars as they like if that`s what it takes to settle a score . Just add up how many cars ,for instance Garry Rodgers ,has had to rebuild over the years , some caused by bad driving by his drivers , but never have I heard him THREATEN anyone no matter who`s fault. At worst he`s suggested that certain drivers shouldn`t be driving ,or should look at finding another occupation . |
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ME 7 months ago |
DNF 67 Supercheap Auto Racing Paul Morris Holden Commodore VE 6 12:42.5070 6 2:02.4620 WELL DONE PAUL WHO ARE YOU GOING TO BLAME THIS TIME |
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Twodogs 7 months ago |
Look out ME , Mr Moderator will get ya . And haven`t all our critics gone quiet all of a sudden . I`ll bet they`re looking for excuses somewhere . |
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michaelvt 7 months ago |
So what? Somebody didnt finish a race...oh dear...like thats never happened before. Im not looking for excuses, its just part of racing, sometimes you finish - sometimes you dont, even the best teams [and drivers  ] dont finish sometimes.And Paul didnt blame anyone, you think that Paul makes "fiery" comments about everything and everyone all the time, well he doesnt and you have just concentrated on a few incidents and assumed that Paul blames everyone else for things - once again he doesn't. Think again next time and try to get over it and focus on the real racing, like the kind that will be coming up in a few weeks time in Hamilton - cant wait |
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Lauren 7 months ago |
Who can seriously name more than a SMALL amount of drivers who actually own up to crashing into (or whatever) into someone else and say yeah i stuffed up??? 90% of the time there all as bad as eachother.. and who blames them??? With the rules the way they are these days it's to risky to loose points/ time if you go yeah i'll admit i was in the wrong... |
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Twodogs 7 months ago |
Ummmm, I can name one Lauren , Jamie Winchup admitted that he`d made a faux pas when he tried that move on ??? .........sorry , I`m old so I cant remember , Winterbottom I think ??? . He simply said he didn`t see him , probably shoulda backed out a bit . And Winterbottom didn` t get his face on the TV afterwards and threaten to get him next time or keep it in the back of his head . Did he Lauren ??? |
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Lauren 7 months ago |
WOW, you can name one.. you get a gold star! |
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csr20t 7 months ago |
Hello again, ME summed it up perfectly, PAUL MORRIS DNF'd AGAIN.... If you think its rude people writing to team forums telling them what they think, GET OFF THE FORUM, That's what they are for, good or bad comments. I think it's rude of PM being so arrogant and showing up to each race and actually getting in the car. Brad Jones realised it, Larry Perkins figured it out, Dick Johnson and so on. If he knows how to build cars and do deals etc, STICK TO THAT. After being in the game so long and STILL listed in the ROOKIE list, surely he needs to swallow his pride and give the real young drivers coming into the series a real go. GIVE THE DRIVING AWAY PAUL !! and two dogs Lauren isn't interested, stick to your porn sites for that sort of thing...... OLD MAN !!!!! |
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michaelvt 7 months ago | csr20t, if you are so hell-bent on Morris "giving it up", then go ask him. Go on... |
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bugsie05 6 months ago |
Tell ya what Paul, I reckon a heap of people will have egg on their faces come endurnce race time, when you and Russell show em how its done!! |
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Twodogs 6 months ago |
csr20t, I almost agreed with everything you said , but the last bit , despite Lauren saying she wouldn`t reply again , she weakened , and I`m glad she did ,she even gave me a gold star . Was your remark about the "OLD MAN" supposed to be hurtful ?, sorry , it didn`t work ,I`ve heard it all before , maybe you could concentrate more on constructive criticism than trying to score with personal insults . |
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Outsider 4 weeks ago | Hey Twodogs/csr20t and other's on the same level.. Im only replying to inform you of some facts that you are either too young to know or to dumb to remember... Many will argue PMs BMW victories in Oz were shallow and easy etc but how many of you know about a place called Macau? Its considered 1 of the best "DRIVERS" circuits IN THE WORLD and this so called lame and useless driver you mention BEAT factory AUDI's among many other top flight European teams and drivers in a car which was 2 YEARS older than the oppositions.. Having actually been there at the time all i can say is the man CAN DRIVE!!! Also do you realise he has irrepairable damage to his lower back from that rear ender many years ago. Im not here to make excuses merely to INFORM you that the "DUDE" was good enough for HRT so get a life. Paul can and will continue to do what he wants when he wants because he can.... Good on him i say.. Russell we all know is good but how did he ever do in a 2.0lt? That mere fact Paul drives in those Aussie cars should let the simple minded drones know Paul LOVES the sport and of ALL the millions of things he could do with the millions he has has opts to race in a series that is so many level's below what he could do if he so choosed to... Russell was smart to go to PMM's team if you ask me.. WHICH OTHER team can honestly say they have the Finances and resources to race the next 10 years??? Please tell me......................... |
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Stido 4 weeks ago |
You can name MANY teams who have the resources to race for the next 10 years..... Ingall also did brilliantly in 2L vehicles. Thing is, 2L vehicles dont mean anything in a feild of juicy v8's. two totally different vehicles. I am not saying Paul is a bad driver, but Russell's CV certainly outshines that of Pauls, and even though Ingall is getting on a bit now, he is performing far better than Paul in an identical car. Remember Paul has been in his own team for several years now, Russell had to learn the team, etc, and he has already performed exceptionally well. Look out for Rusty next year. I hope Paul is strong enough at bathurst to lead them both to victory. would be fantastic for them both! |
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Stido 4 weeks ago |
1976-1980 Russell's motor racing career commenced at the age of 12, when he began racing go-karts. He won the Australian Junior Championship before progressing to Seniors at age 16. 1981-1988 Russell was four times Australian Senior Kart Champion (International Class), also winning the 1988 Manufacturer's Challenge Cup for Excell Karts, which he designed and built in Adelaide. In addition, he raced in Europe as a works driver for Swiss manufacturer Hutless and for Italian Kali Kart. He moved up to single-seater Formula Ford in 1988. Russell placed third in only his second Formula Ford race – a support event to the 1988 Adelaide F1 Grand Prix. 1989 In his first full season racing cars, Russell finished second in the Australian Motorcraft Formula Ford Driver to Europe Championship Series. He also won the Australian Formula Festival and Bathurst 1000 Formula Ford support race, setting a new lap record along the way. 1990 He went one better to win the national Formula Ford Championship and used his prize to follow his dream of racing in Europe and representing Australia in the annual British Formula Ford Festival at Brands Hatch. 1991 He moved from Australia to Britain to compete in the British 1600 Formula Ford Championship in a privately run car being one of the first Australian drivers to gain the support from the prestigious Van Diemen factory team. He led the 18-round championship with the overall highest points score on the track, but due to the complex scoring system lost the championship to Marlboro driver Marc Goossens by just five points. During this year he also drove in a one-off race in the final round of the British Opel Lotus Championship. This was his first time driving a wings and slick car, and he qualified on the front row and won the rookie award. 1992 Russell made the move from England to Europe and drove an Opel works-supported Dallara for Opel Team Schubel in the prestigious German Formula 3 Championship - at the time acknowledged as being the most competitive of all Formula 3 Championships. His best result was a second place to the series winner and former Lotus F1 driver, Pedro Lamy, in the final round of the Championship at Hockenheim. Russell also had the opportunity to compete at the Asian Macau Grand Prix and rocked the establishment by starting 23rd and being in a position by mid-way through the race to overtake David Coulthard for fifth position. Unfortunately both drivers crashed. During the northern winter, Russell competed in the New Zealand Dunlop Formula Ford series, winning it easily with 10 victories from 12 races. 1993 In 1993 Russell returned to Britain and was scheduled to drive new a Van Diemen Formula 3 development car in the British Championship, but the project was cancelled due to technical problems at the last minute. He then put a deal together to drive as the Van Diemen factory driver in the new British Zetec Open Formula Ford series. Russell made history, winning 13 out of 16 races, scoring the maximum number of points possible in the series and the highest number of wins in a single season in the history of Formula Ford. He also competed in the Marlboro Masters European race at Zandvoort circuit in Holland. Russell took pole and led the race from start to finish. The season was finished off by winning one of the most prestigious single-seater events - the Formula Ford Festival and World Cup at Brands Hatch in England. 1994 Russell competed in Japanese Formula 3 Championship for the Navi Connection Racing Team. He was a consistent top-five place contender and was running up to fourth place in the Championship. With the permission of Navi, he missed the remaining four rounds to take up an opportunity to join Wayne Gardner's V8 Touring Car team and compete in the remaining endurance races in Australia. At the Bathurst 1000, Russell and Gardner finished fifth (after at one stage leading the race) only 35 seconds behind the winning car. 1995 This was a turning point in Russell's career. He competed in and finished second in the British Formula Renault Championship but after the tragic death of Greg Hansford in Australia, Russell received a call from Larry Perkins to join his team for the Bathurst 1000. He played a vital role in the team’s epic last to first victory. Over the British winter, Russell decided to return to Australia full time for the 1996 V8 Supercar Championship after Perkins offered to run a second car. |
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Outsider 4 weeks ago | Stido i think either you misunderstood my intention or i didn't get it out right.. Anyways under no circumstances would i say Paul is better in a V8 than Ingall.. Results in the same cars ends that debate before it starts. I just wanted to point out that Paul isn't 2nd rate or anything other than a Multiple 2.0lt Champ, V8 round winner, Bathurst podium driver...etc,etc. |
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crowngirl 6 days ago | I'm a huge fan of Russell's and I've been supporting him since he drove for Larry Perkins, so I am a Russell Ingall fan and not a Holden or Ford fan. I agree with michaelvt in his comments about Stone Bros as I too was a frustrated supporter when the team's focus was obviously on Ambrose, & more recently, Courtney, despite Russel winning the driver's championship when Ambrose was still around. I think Stone Bros have some major probs since Courtney's leaving them and 888 Racing is looking at ditching the Stone Bros motors from their set up. I hope that Supercheap continue to support Russell (and consequently) Paul Morris. Whilst Paul should think before he speaks more often (I didn't appreciate his comments about Russell supposedly playing it safe at Phillip Island; whether he's the team-owner or not you shouldn't publicly and unjustly criticise your main driver), he is a good enough driver to be in the main game, and if he can continue to run his own race team then good on him. I just hope Paul is up to the challenge of Bathurst and that he doesn't let Russell down. |
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Commodore S 6 days ago |
I am also a Russell Ingall supporter and more than pleased where he is. I think Paul Morris is supporting him to the hilt and he is returning the results. As for SCAR sponsorship Russell carries the badge in this respect and they have made him the face of SCAR. We must remember the primary shareholder of SCAR is Castrol whom Russell has has a good rapport. As for SBR I agree they did not show him the recognition for his achievements but their are two stories to every one story. Whilst on SBR I think they would be happy little campers. Courtney will remain competing under their banner albeit in a customer car provided by FPR. As for 888 they only used certain components provided by SBR. Overall I consider Roland Dane will be considering beyond the Ford factor in the future. As for Paul Morris his support for Russell at P.I was up to expectations and pleasing. Given this I think he will stand up to the plate at Bathurst. Having said this I think Paul is pretty well at the end of his trail. His credentials during the past have been explicit however their comes a time when a person has to concede defeat and realize their prowess is under question and consider where the fun stops and the serious business starts. Afterall a Driver who has achieved what Paul has does not want to be remembered for all the wrong reasons and he is a smart enough boy to realise this. I think at years end the keys to Car 67 will be handed over to another competitor and Paul will assume a management role together with having his fun days in Aussie Cars/Nascar(Overseas) etc. Regards. |
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